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This is the motivation, everybody.
Welcome to another episode of Jugit Deals Coast
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to coast, the podcast that talks
about what's important on and off the mats.
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As you guys all know, West
Coast ADCC try files, the largest
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trials in the history of ADCC,
just wrapped up not too long ago.
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ME AND COUSIN ATT were there.
We saw Cuz how many amazing Jiujit deal
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wizards did we see that working out
there? Oh my God man, there
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was so many like the whole weekend. I was pumped, I was motivated.
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I mean watching everyone out there just
got me, man. I seen
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legends like just walking around like like
nothing, just walking around, ging and
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meet everybody, seeing different styles and
watching that. You know what we talked
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about on the show all the time, that family dynamic in Jiu Jitsu that
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you know, all of us,
you know military and veterans, we all
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look for when we joined. You
know Jiujitsu. We saw it there and
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I cannot tell you how amazing that
that event was, because the vibe just
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was amazing. You know what I
mean. You talk about family, you
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talk about teams traveling together supporting each
other. I was talking with our guests
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a little while ago and I said
I feel like my game just let my
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game level just by being in the
a scene vicinity as these people. With
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that being said, I want to
welcome our newest guests to the show,
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Mr Jeff, the real deal,
Real Jeff, welcome to the Jiujitdail neighborhood
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brother. How you doing? I'm
doing awesome. Appreciate you having me on.
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You know, this is is a
very cool thing to be a part
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of, so I'm very grateful.
So thank you, guys, no problem,
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they because how you doing this Sunday
morning? Man, I'm great.
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Man, I'm doing good. Had
that giants game yesterday, but I'm really
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looking forward to talking to Jeff and
and got some, you know, huge
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questions. I want to talk to
him. For All you listeners out there
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who don't know, like we met
Jeff this past weekend. It at ADCC
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trials, man, and this guy
right here we ended up. I don't
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know how it just happened to click, but he was actually competing right at
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the Mat, right in front of
us. We didn't know him, but
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after watching him compete and once you
guys get to know him, wow,
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man, blew my mind away.
Made I mean we were talking about this
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at the Matt. There is no
way we can go to train, not
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go to train when you know we
got guys like this competiting at this level
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and taking it to that. Yeah, man, Oh my God, man,
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I'm super stoked. Man, I
can't wait to get into this interview.
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Yeah, for sure. Well,
let's just jump into these questions real
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quick because we just talked to Jeff. He's on his way to Legion Open
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Matt about to put it down.
Jeff, we always start our first art
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interview with this staple question here,
just to kind of set the mood a
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little bit. Jeff, do you
have a favorite martial arts motivational movie that
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you watch to pump you up every
now and then? We'd had a lot
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of a lot of answers in the
past. Blood Sport, we've had karate
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kid, we've had just cream of
the crop, all kinds of stuff all
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over the place. ANYTHING COME TO
MINE? You know, it's funny.
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You you know you had this question
because this is actually, you know,
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something that like I resonated very well
with and my answers not your typical like
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rocky blood sport or even rump on
the Bronx it's it's Fike Club, one
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hundred problem a little while, but
fight club. That'll just, you know,
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get me back in the zone without
that's what sub that brings bat that
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movie Brings Back Awesome, Awesome Memories. Member, because that first house we
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moved into kill Yeah, Oh,
yeah, I remember that. Yeah,
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but we're not going to talk about
Brad Pitt with the shirt off. I
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don't know why you always try to
go there. All right, but I
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think the thing with Fike club that
really, you know, stood out is
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just like that that you know,
whatever or fuck it, mentality. You
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know where it's just, you know, no excuses, just get out there,
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you know, you know life can
be a little gritty, it can
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be a little dark, but you
know you're just gonna, you know,
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be in the zone. And you
know, there's a quote, you know,
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that I actually had a dig up
before I hopped on here. You
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know, it's the ability to let
which does not matter, truly slide.
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And and with me, you know, it's you know, I've had a
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lot of things happen in my life
and you know, I how to just
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get through them and just ignore them
or, you know, and just,
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you know, make it. You
know, just stay, I guess,
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Make Myself Unaware of it, you
know, even though it was like,
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you know, very, I guess, prevalent in my head. You know.
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So that's what's up. Yeah,
yeah, that's great answer, Jack.
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That was deep, bro Ah,
awesome. Thank you for answering that,
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of course. Course. Hey,
so, Jeff, so, you
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know. So for us, you
know, we just got to know you're
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not too long ago. And all
the listeners out there, how did you
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get into Jiujitsu, like what got
what made you get in bold, you
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know, how did it start?
Like what did it was? Where's your
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career or your Jiujitsu paths start?
Well, I started wrestling and middle school
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and and also high school, and
my senior year I had a friend was
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he was like an anti wrestler guy
and and he started training Jiu Jitsu and
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asked if I was interested in joining
him. And and I was a little
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bit more hip to the UFC,
especially because it was two thousand and six
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and that was during like the era
where you know, Stephen Bonner and forest
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Griffin fod and you know, and
Hoyst Graci's returned back to the cage and
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all that. So, you know, it definitely was was something I was
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interested in. So, you know, I was I was wrestling at the
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time when I first rolled Jiu Jitsu
with my friend before actually going to the
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gym, and shortly after wrestling season
I ended up just joining the the official
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Jiujitsu Academy over in my old hometown, you might a Z and yeah,
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from there just I just knew it
just was, you know, that was
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it. That was something I was
really you know, I was naturally able
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to do, especially from my wrestling
background. So yeah, really, you
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know, just felt natural, felt
right and that's cool. So I was
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almost like a love at first sight
kind of deal. Absolutely, yeah,
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I mean he, my friend,
showed me a couple moves and we rolled
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and, you know, and he
caught me, I caught him, and
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I'm like, okay, I think, I think I like this. You
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know, it's very, very relative
to what I was what I was already
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doing and you know, and my
even in wrestling it wasn't so much my
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takedowns but like the actual like round
mat work, you know, being in
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the referee position, starting their top
or bottom. That's where I was definitely
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a little bit more successful. So
going too Jiu Jitsu was just like such
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a great transition. Now, did
you have a did you have any issues
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like like would in your regards like
wrestling? You know, you talked to
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some wrestlers and they say like's they're
used to be in the same position.
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It, you know, is like
on giving their back, but being on
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the you know, their stomach,
this is like they're safe place, you
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know, and wrestling versus like Jiu
Jitsu, you don't want to give up
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your back. Did you have any
of that, those issues, or,
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you know, anytime I would venture
into a different combat sport, I really,
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I really did my best to to
stay specific or focused on that,
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you know, whatever it was.
You know, I even did judo for
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a little bit and you know,
and there are certain things you could not
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do in judo that you would do
in Jiu Jitsu. So so when I
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went from wrestling to Jiu Jitsu,
it's like, okay, I can fight
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off my back. All right,
I'm not. I don't automatically lose.
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I got more time to fight.
So because, you know, in wrestling
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you get pinned, it's like that's
it. It's just like, well,
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that was only twenty, thirty seconds. You give another shocker, you know.
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You know what Jiu Jitsu. It
really opened up more time on the
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Mat, more opportunity to be on
the mat compete as much as I wanted.
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So, you know, transitioning,
especially with the techniques and not giving
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up my back. I mean I
would still have terrible habits as a wrestler
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going into Jiu Jitsu, but eventually
I was able to break them all and
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and you know, eventually become more
of a Jiu Jitsu guy than I was
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a wrestler guy, to be honest. All Right, well, Jeff,
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what uh? Speaking of early Jiujitsu, what do you remember about those early
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days? Was it? Was it
a lot of rough lessons? Was it
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a lot of being the he being
the nail, as you some people would
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say? What stood out to you
the most? You know, it was
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the the type of Jim Culture I
was more introduced to was was very,
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you know, it is a very
hobbyist Jim the first gym I was at,
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and even been when I moved to
San Diego and I started training over
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at Fabio Santo's. You know,
there was a lot of like you kind
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of had to figure things out on
your own and, you know, Blue
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Belt White through purple. You know, I played a lot of trial and
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air what I had to figure out
to get to the next level. And
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and I did have mentors from time
to time try to help me out give
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me their time. But but as
far as competing in sport, I had
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to I had to cross train,
I had to hit up open Matt's,
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I had to hit up all these
different tournaments. I would ask my friends
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that were also competing, but we're
also on you know, they were on
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other teams. So I would just
pick everyone's brain on what to do,
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what not to do. What are
all the world champions doing? You know,
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I even thought, you know,
if maybe I should take a break
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from competing and just focus training at
the gym to evolve my game so that
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when I go back and compete I'll
do a little better. And then someone
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revealed to me as like Nah,
Dude, you want to compete all the
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time, as much as possible.
That's how those top competitors get better.
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Is and it's so from that I
was like, all right, I got
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to compete at every tournament I possibly
can get get into that's close by,
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you know, not too out of
the way. So so and so that's
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cound the most success where your gain
just exploded kind of like, you know,
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it's I I always had these these
epiphany moments where, you know,
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I would I would go compete or
I would go to a you know,
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a seminar or maybe a training camp
and and, like I said, I
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had to do a lot of my
own seeking and searching for for extra work,
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you know, especially, you know, and I would do paenams or
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worlds. I wouldn't make it a
point to go to another like high level
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gym to train. You know,
like I said, some of the gym's
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I was at was very recreational hobbyists, which, you know, it's totally
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fine. You know, you definitely
need, you know, the the hobbyists
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and the recreationalist at the gym.
You know that the competitors, they don't
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they don't pay memberships. You know, the recreationalist do. But as a
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competitor, you know you have to
be around other competitors in order to,
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you know, have success. So
once I started opening the door more towards
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you know, cross training and meeting
other guys that were also younger and competing
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on a regular basis, I would
just constantly pick their brains on what I
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needed to do. And and some
of those friends I'm still friends with eventually
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became teammates with at autos and,
you know, I have a friend that
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was when I was a brown belt. He was a blue belt, but
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he was just a very active competitor
and, you know, and even now
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I still use moosy taught me when
he was, you know, a lower
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rank than me, you know,
but just the level of training which where
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I was at versus where he was
and used to you know, was,
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you know, much different. So
once I got around like these types of
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individuals, I kind of stuck to
them and and try to try to learn
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as much as I could. You
know, that's really what it came down
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to for me was, you know, meeting other young competitors that have done
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well and what are they doing?
What do I need to do? So
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that's pretty much like the majority of
my journey from white to to black.
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All right, so just keep an
open mind and being being open to learning
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from anybody and everyone. That's yes, yeah, that's what I did.
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You just mind for sure. Thanks, Jeff. So my question is,
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will you, and this kind of
like a two parter question. Yeah,
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you mentioned, like you know,
the recreational Jiujit Deo, and then you
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also talked about the competitor. What
makes someone, and I this is a
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question for me, like going watching
you guys at atfee feed like I would
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consider myself like that, recreational,
you know. I you know, I
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go to work and then I trained, stuff like that, but always interested
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in that next level. And they
watching you guys, you know at ATC
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see it's like okay, yes,
I I want to be a part of
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that life. I want I want
to do that. What would you tell,
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you know, our listeners who are
in the same boat? They want
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to who get to that competter?
What makes someone a competitor or, you
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know, get to that level?
How would you describe it? I think
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to, you know, be in
the category of an active competitor, you
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know, someone that's, you know, putting in as much training sessions as
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possible, obviously every day, you
know, six days a week, and
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then also a strength and conditioning and, you know, maybe other sessions.
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If there's you know, if this
person has like a job or career,
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which there are guys that are out
there that, you know, we've seen
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as a high level level competitors.
They have regular jobs. You know,
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I forget who it was at the
trials, that one, but he's a
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lawyer, you know, and I
guess he won the trials previously, and
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so that tells me that guy is
probably, you know, training before and
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after work or maybe doing some lifting
before work and then training after work.
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But I mean no one, no
one gets to win the trials, you
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know, just simply training, you
know, three, four times a week.
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You know, I think it's a
like a six days, six day
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a week, couple times a day, you know, just seven focus,
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you know. But you know,
like I said, there there's levels,
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there's there there are some guys who
are just completely not doing anything. They
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don't have jobs but have all this
free time. Do Compete on a regular
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basis, but what I put them
in the category of being as focused as
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the guy that's really having a just
grind it out even with the job,
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you know. So those guys who
do well as competitors that have other careers
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or jobbed as priorities, you know, they they're definitely a competitor. You
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know, in fact, I commend
those guys that have to work a nine
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hundred and twenty five and and still
win. You know, it's that's nuts.
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To me. You know, where
I see a lot of Jiu Jitsu
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guys who are all they have to
do is go to the gym and train,
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but their focus isn't as as strong, which which is kind of sad
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because, you know, it's like
you can't waste super if you have all
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these yes, way, way,
definitely, wow, man, Dang.
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Yeah, that's fucking that's awesome and
that awesome. So I is that,
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like, is that how you got
out to California, because I know you
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mentioned that you were out in Arizona
before you started off. They're like,
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how did that happen? How did
you transition from Arizona to California? So
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I was actually very lucky being able
to move from Arizona to San Diego.
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My Dad, he is in the
Marine Corps for thirty years and in two
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thousand and seven have the opportunity to
transfer over to San Diego and asked if
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I wanted to go with and of
course I I was more than stoked for
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it. You know, I loved
California. You know, I've been visiting
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California since I was in since I
was a baby, but when I was
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older and had come up with friends, either to train or hang out.
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I just like it was just my
vibe. So when he, when my
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dad asked, I was like yes, let's do it. So that's how
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eventually I got out here. But
there was a little are where my dad
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actually transferred out to Florida and I
kind of stayed behind just to stick it
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out, and then eventually I followed
him over to Florida and and trained out
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there for a year. Wow,
okay, so is that? And so
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how did you end up back in
Sandigo? So He, my dad,
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actually got transferred back to Arizona,
back to the back to my hometown and
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and so I went back to to
Yuma and I had just gotten promoted as
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a black belt in two thousand and
twelve and and was back at my my
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original gym. You know that I
started off as a white belt and and
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my goal going back was to help
out the gym train compete as a black
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belt. And this was a very
small school that only had, I think,
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three classes at the time. So
I up the schedule so like thirteen
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classes a week and so I can
get some extra training in teach, you
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know, give back to my old
gym. And during this era when I
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was in Yuma, I thought,
and so for me at the time of
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this was huge. You know,
my first, I think my first tournament
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as a black belt was against tanner
ice and he was a brown belt world
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champ. Oh My yes, and
and then second tournament was was ver Yoshita,
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and third ways man. Now,
Tara, Dude, you jump right
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into the deep ind buddy. Yes, and then both Mendes Bros and then
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Ben Henderson and, you know,
Sameer, Shan Tree, Jackson Suza.
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You know, it was it was
just nuts, it was. And I
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was just training in a small town
at a smallness, very small gym,
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just trying to grind it out as
much as I could, do as much
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as I, you know, possibly
could based on the information I was getting
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from, you know whoever, all
those other competitors that I was still in
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touch with, and eventually it just
got to the point where I had to
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move back to in Diego and and
so I, you know, I left
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my hometown. I ended up rooming
with a bunch of Friends of mine that
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were training at autos and and this
kind of like started this, you know,
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this interaction with with autos, where
I would go in every once in
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a while the cross chain, but
you know, at the time I just
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couldn't, I couldn't, you know, I couldn't make ends meet to be
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able to, you know, be
a member. So I was over at
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victory, victory MMA for for a
few years, and I trained with Jeff
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Glover, Dean Lister and Chris Leeban
was also my mma coach, you know,
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at the time. So moving back
to San Diego, I was you
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know, it was a it was
a great opportunity for me to really expand
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my Jiujitsu. So, yeah,
I just after after a year in Arizona,
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you know, I just I just
couldn't handle it anymore. The heat
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is unbearable and and and it's and
more more, you know, specifically,
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you know, the training wasn't what
I needed it to be. So I
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just, you know, I had
to make the decision. I'm like,
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you know, it breaks my heart
to have to leave my hometown and and
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this this cool little gym that,
you know, was I was a part
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of. But you know, I
just gotta, you know, do what's
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best for me and and, you
know, make that move. And so
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I did. And and not honestly, it worked out because training and you
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know, training at victory MMA,
I never been in a gym where you
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could train noogie twice a day.
You know, the the gym's I was
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at, from white to black.
Prior to that, you know, was
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a most majority gie focus school and
and it's and it's kind of weird because
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I was always better in Noogie,
even, as you know, coming up
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as a white, blue, purple
Brown. But majority of the events I
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did we're all gee. But when
I finally went to victory, I was
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able to train noogie, you know, as much as I wanted and I
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was just like wow, this is
awesome, you know, like these guys
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don't care if I if I'm never
in the yee, you know, which
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was a which was kind of like
a you know, a weird moment because
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I was just so used to training, you know, gie every day,
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twice a day. Yeah, that's
just kind of the norm, I guess.
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But as the game evolves, you
know, I'm an older Jiugit deal,
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Jeff, and the more I spend
time doing Jiujutsu, the more I
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start to appreciate Noogie a little bit
more. And then, I mean and
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then just looking at we what we
saw on the trials, I never in
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my life have ever seen a pace
like that weekend. Every match was just
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go, go, go, get
up. There's no rest. He's just
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constant. It's an action man.
It was awesome and I loved it.
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One thing that I that I noticed
about you, though, Jeff, like,
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from the moment even before your match
started, from the moment you you
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were in the match, you were
completely zoned in, like it I was
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almost like we weren't even there.
And then once the match was over,
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then you would like acknowledged everybody that
was out in the crowd. How did
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you keep so mellow, so cool, so reserved when you're waiting for your
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match to begin? You know,
it's it's definitely taken a lot of a
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lot of you know, good losses, bad losses. You know, the
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accumulation of competition experience, you know, has allowed me to, you know,
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not get two worked up, you
know, in the sense and like,
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you know, where overthinking things.
But I also know what I need,
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you know, and and I know
some people like to meditate or,
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you know, chill out or be
quiet or still, but for me it's,
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you know, I kind of have
to keep myself above a certain heart
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rate or or, I guess,
mental flow where, you know, I'm
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I'm about to engage in a very
physical activity, you know, or where
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someone is, you know, trying
to beat me up, essentially. So
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yeah, you know it's as far
as combat goes. You I've fought MMA,
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amateur and pro. I've also boxed. You know, I've done Ebi
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shows, Combat Jiu Jitsu shows.
You know, it's and I've definitely fight
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to win as well, and I've
definitely felt nervous in all of it.
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But you know, this trials,
I you know it was it was kind
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of like a point where I just
told myself, like, you know what
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I put in, all the work, I have, all this experience.
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I warmed up, I drilled the
way I needed to. I you know,
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I cut my weight the way it
should have been cut. Just everything
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lined up perfectly, you know,
and and and it's not always that way.
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You know, it's you know a
lot of people have trial and error
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where they, you know, mess
up on like one or two things or
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maybe everything, you know, and
but you know, after all this experience,
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all these you know, all these
moments, you know, it just
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lined up perfect. We're like,
I knew what my game plan was.
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I know what to expect. You
know, two weeks before trials, I
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did the LA open and I got
smoked by this young kid. So that
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really woke me up. I'm like, okay, this kids in the trials
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too, so I gotta, I
gotta just, you know, be ready.
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You know, it's like no excuses, you know, like I don't
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care if I feel tired or or
if I feel like I didn't drink enough
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water or like, when it's on, it's on. You know, and
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do whatever you need to do afterwards, but you know, as far as
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right before the mat or the match, getting to the Mat, you know,
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and it's just I know everything is
lined up the way I needed it
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too. So like every match at
trials, even my last one, I'm
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like, okay, this is it, this is where I send it,
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this is where I really make it
happen, where I put it all together.
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And you know, and with the
amount of like the amount of experience
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I have them, I'm truly confident
and what I have to bring to the
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table. You're at a level where
you trust your Jiu Jitsu. You know,
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you're fine. Yes, one hundred
percent. You know, it's like
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I know what I'm capable of,
I know what I'm not able to do,
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you know, as far as like
what's in my game what's not in
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my game. So it's like once
if I just stick to the game plan,
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you know, I'm I know I'm
going to do more than well,
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wow, man, that's definitely on
and off the mad. This is definitely
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like motivational right. You know,
listening to this, you know, I
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know I listeners are probably going to
be, you know, saying the same
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thing. You know, but you
know, thout your your you know,
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career and you know you be doing
Jiujitsu, like what would what things have
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you had to overcome? You know
they you know, do out your route.
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Well, you know, obviously you
know I was born with with one
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hand, but I never felt like
that, you know, hindered me.
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You know, other people always see
it as like, as a disadvantage.
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You know, for me it's less
like this is natural for me, you
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know, and I've a beaten so
many, you know, people in different
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combat sports, from wrestling to Jiu
Jitsu to him and made a boxing,
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you know, even judo. You
know, it's never I've never seen it
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as like, you know what I'm
just you know, I'm probably going to
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lose this. No, in my
head. In my head I'm like winning
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every match. I'm like even knocking
people out, even though I'm not a
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striker, but like that's like my
mentality of I'm I'm going to bring the
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fight in whatever fight it is.
But you know, as far as things
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I've had to overcome, you know, I've I've had to modify my Jiujitsu
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game for, you know, having
one hand, and you know, and
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I have a very, you know, somewhat of a Jean Jacques approach with
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the Overhook Underhook System. Of course
everyone since day one mentioned him. But
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you know, as far as having
one hand, it's been a walk in
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the park from me, you know, lifewise compared to you know, I've
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had some health issues. You know, the when I moved back from Arizona
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back to San Diego in two thousand
and thirteen, you know, I I
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finally meddled at at the at noogie
world's. My first title ever at the
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world's was that black belt. And
then, you know, shortly after this,
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you know, I was diagnosed with
cancer and hear that and so that
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that, you know, definitely took
me out of the game for a few
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months. You know, I've had
these health issues you know where I had
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a check up on since high school. You know, cancer happened when I
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was twenty six and I've had other
things happen, you know, prior to
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that, when I was like sixteen, Fifteen. So the these, you
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know, medical concerns have have definitely, you know, been somewhat of an
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obstacle, but you know, I've
always recovered. I've always, you know,
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had the proper treatment, you know, did what I needed to to,
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you know, be healthy again.
And you know, and even though
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I had, you know, gesticular
cancer and I had it removed surgically.
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You know, six, seven months
after that, I had my first amateur
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MMA fight and one and one within
like a mini mid a minute thirty.
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RNC, you are a monster.
Yeah, Daddy, how did you what
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did that feel? Man? How
did you feel after that? You know,
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it felt a lot like that after
that win at trials. You know
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where I was just my head exploded, you know, it's it was just
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like I did it. You know, I knew I could do it.
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I put my mind to it,
you know, and a lot of people
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would have probably, you know,
taken a break from Jiujitsu or and the
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May. I just I was just
looking for my my fastest route back to
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it and and then just come back
with a vengeance, you know, and
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prove to you know, myself and
everyone around me, because, you know,
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I know, I know people doubt
me and and it's funny because they
411
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don't. They doubt me till I
do something really epic and then they're like,
412
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I knew you could do it,
and and so it's just kind of
413
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.319
funny to see people's like attitudes change, you know, when I when I
414
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when I have these like really cool
moments, you know, just like the
415
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one at trials, you know,
like that that felt a lot like my
416
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first amateur van may fight, you
know, getting that real naked choke and
417
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now was, you know, super
pumped, and you know I was.
418
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.799
You know, I I can't.
It's hard to describe such an awesome feeling,
419
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.880
but just knowing that you like set
a goal for yourself and put in
420
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all the work and and totally crushed
it. I mean that there's nothing better
421
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than that. That's awesome. Man. You grab this on that. Yeah,
422
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.640
definitely. Do you. Do you
ever find like? Do you do
423
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you ever find like people like underestimate
you because of that all the time?
424
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All that since day one. You
know, I I remember and high school
425
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.680
wrestling, this this other wrestler that
I was about to face off with.
426
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.559
He was talking smack to his teammates
and and obviously he was talking about me
427
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:39.160
having one hand and I'm like,
Oh hell no, yeah, so,
428
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:44.119
you know, I remember I picked
I like one of my fastest pins ever
429
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.839
in restling, you know, what
was against this kid, and I remember
430
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:53.119
how upset he was afterwards, like
he was talking all that smack and then,
431
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:59.039
you know, totally got owned and, you know, just punched,
432
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:04.039
hit the Mat, started cursing,
you know, and it's and that's not
433
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the only time. You know,
I've had other people react the same way
434
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:15.039
in other situations, you know,
pencration and May Jiujitsu. You know,
435
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:20.320
it's it's I don't know, I
mean I don't take it personally. I
436
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.719
just find it more funny than anything. Well, man, I can definitely
437
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:29.599
say watching you on the mats like
there's there's no difference, like you definitely
438
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.639
show out on the mads like it. You would. I mean for all
439
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.360
my our veteran listeners, and you
know we've listened, you know, have
440
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.920
listened like on our Vecho's episodes or
talk about it and they talked about like
441
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.880
missing limbs and stuff like that and, you know, going out there and
442
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.800
competing and, you know, binding
Jiujitsu as their way. Like this guy
443
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.400
right here, this is the guy
you want to go watch, because it's
444
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.719
like it's not I don't even know
what the words are, man, and
445
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.920
watching you out there, it was
like what you didn't have. Yeah,
446
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.119
it's rational, man. It was
freaking awesome, you know. And if
447
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.000
anybody thinks that, you know,
he's you know, to overlooking around.
448
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.960
And Yeah, yeah, leas,
it was rick sat yeah, a lea
449
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:17.079
mistaken, because that that shit was
quick that you were on him like it
450
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:22.679
was like like butter on bread.
Man. That was freaking awesome, you
451
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.960
know. And you know, to
add, you know, to to this
452
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.199
experience at trials, you know,
after the East Coast trials, you know,
453
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:37.800
I was I was training extremely hard, like it was like a nonstop
454
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:44.000
camp from what it seemed like July
to October. You know, we had
455
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:50.199
the WHO's number one camp for the
rutolo twins, you know, Halfayolla and
456
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.480
kind of, and so we were
doing like fifteen minute rounds in that camp
457
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.000
and and it was just so gnarly. And then you know my girl and
458
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:05.719
I we we did fight twin San
Diego, September, October, we didn't
459
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:10.360
know you worlds. November we did
east coast trials. So it was non
460
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:19.119
stop. But you know, I
started to ignore some some some injuries.
461
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.440
You know that we're kind of bothering
me, but I was kind of like
462
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.199
just trying to train through it.
And and I go to MMA practice and
463
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:31.519
and we're just doing like simple stuff
and I roll and snap my ankle like
464
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:37.880
really low and this is like a
week or two after east coast trials,
465
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.440
so this is back in November.
I could not walk correctly or without assistance
466
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.800
for a month or two, I
think. I would say like for a
467
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:52.519
couple months. I needed like crutches, a cane, you knows, limping.
468
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.559
I could not even roll. I
would like try to roll with like
469
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my my kids, students, you
know, but I'm like that's that's still
470
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.960
a little, you know, uncomfortable. So pay yeah, yeah, a
471
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.400
lot of pain, you know.
And so I you know, I did
472
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:15.280
my rehab. I started to lift, I started to roll, very limited,
473
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.840
you know, there was not so
much too much I could do.
474
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.559
You know, if someone was on
my leg, I had a tap ride
475
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.679
away, or there was like a
weird past they were doing where they were
476
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.519
grabbing my leg. I would just
let them pass. You know, its
477
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.360
just like yeah, you got it, you know, and I'm I'm just
478
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:37.480
getting wrecked and submitted over and over
again. So, like, my training
479
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.000
was very, very challenging. You
know. It was like man, how
480
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.519
am I going to do at trials? You know, and I still signed
481
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.800
up in January, as soon as
they drop the announcement, I got my
482
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.920
I've got my registration, paid for, plane tickets. You know, I
483
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.559
was in, even with my ankle
being as messed up as it was.
484
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:04.679
But you know, to go from
that to, you know, doing having
485
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.880
a really good run at trials where
I hit moves that I'd been drilling nonstop,
486
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.320
or it's like if I ever going
to hit this, you know,
487
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.639
and sure enough, like at that
second match, you guys were watching like
488
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.719
that's one of the moves, that
one of the back transitions I've been really
489
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:27.320
working on and Oh man. So
it was just awesome for everything to come
490
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.440
together and, you know, and
despite the ankle and you know and everything
491
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.079
else, is just like here we
are, you know, or there's no
492
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:40.559
turning back, like we're just who
knows, you're always nothing. All in
493
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:46.119
whot be expect nothing and be pleasantly
surprised. You know. Yeah, Jeff
494
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.320
Um, all the listeners out there
and all of us, you know,
495
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.280
we all know that you Jutsu's given
us so much. You know, some
496
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.239
of us it's delivered us from some
God places, help us make friends,
497
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.920
helped us keep friends, showed us
to be humble and better people on and
498
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.199
off the mets. What do you
feel is the most important thing Jiu Jitsu
499
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:10.239
has given you? Jiujitsu has given
me strong identity, you know, strong
500
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.440
self esteem, confidence. You know
I was. I was a very,
501
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:22.440
you know, shy, timid,
you know, easily embarrassed growing up.
502
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.360
You know, I just you know
what Jiu Jitsu and, you know,
503
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.079
combat sports in general, it really
give. You gave me, you know,
504
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:35.480
a sense of self, pride and
you know, and just knowing,
505
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.199
I could accomplish things that, you
know, to a lot of people,
506
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:45.000
seem damn near impossible for someone in
my you know, quote unquote, situation,
507
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:50.880
you know, or special circumstances.
But you know, with with everything
508
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.920
that has happened, you know all
the good, all the awesome moments and
509
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.519
and even the low moments help me
put things in perspective, you know,
510
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:04.760
but you it's Jiujitsu has just given
me such a strong, healthy lifestyle and,
511
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.360
you know, and confidence I don't
think I would have been able to
512
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:13.480
achieve through anything else. Right on, great answer. Thank you, Jeff.
513
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.760
So, Jeff, I mean.
Yeah, head coach in a beautiful
514
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:21.880
city, Black Belloty, Jiu Jitsu. Some some would say that is already
515
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.960
a lifetime of accomplishments, and they
would be correct, obviously. You know,
516
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.480
along with everything else, you know, you mentioned, you know,
517
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:34.880
combat sports and over you know,
coming adversity and everything. What what drives
518
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.440
you and what else would you like
to accomplish in the sport? Like,
519
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.719
what's your next level? Where you
going from here? You know, my
520
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:51.400
goal ultimately is to be noogie world
champ, noogie Panam Champ, American national
521
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:59.000
noogie champ. Those are my those
are definitely like the titles that I'm chasing,
522
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.639
you know, and what drives me
is just knowing that the more I
523
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.159
up my level in Jiu Jitsu,
the more I'm I'm able to up my
524
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:15.000
my programs level, you know,
at my my gym and Alpine, the
525
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.480
more I get out there and become, you know, or continue to become,
526
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:27.000
a strong example to my students and
members of what it is to not
527
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.039
give any excuses and just to do
your best. You know, and and
528
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.320
I've lost. You know, I've
lost a lot of first round, you
529
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.400
know, tournaments. You know,
lost for fround matches and you know,
530
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.320
I know and for a lot of
people that they shut down mentally or get
531
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.239
discourage and you know that I don't
think competings for me, you know,
532
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.159
and if I had, if I
had that mentality, I would have quit
533
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.119
I don't know how many times.
You know, because because I've because as
534
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.760
much as I've won, I've definitely
lost, you know, and I've had
535
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.480
a lot of losses and you know, and I just keep coming back and
536
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.039
you know, because I know I
can do well and I know I'm going
537
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.760
to have, you know, a
tournament where it's just going to all line
538
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:16.679
up perfectly for me, especially if
I'm consistent with the hard work and you
539
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.880
know, and it continuing to grow
and learn. You know, I know
540
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:25.480
it's just gonna it's bound to happen. You know, probability. You know,
541
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.679
with the amount that you put in, you know it's something's going to
542
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.719
come out, you know. So
that's why it's I always follow the the
543
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.400
quote. You know, you miss
all the opportunities you don't like take.
544
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:42.960
So right, yeah, that's that's
kind of that's where I'm at. You
545
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.480
know, I've just as long as
I if I up my level, everyone
546
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.039
around me levels up, and so
do. I mean do you. How
547
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.239
do you balance that, man?
I mean how do you balance where you
548
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.519
want to get all that you're doing
in this sport and like your personal I've
549
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.519
like you. We were met,
talking about how you're on your way to
550
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.599
open Maut with your girlpen and everything. How do you balance all that?
551
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:09.000
You know, I just make sure
to rest when it's time to rest.
552
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:16.719
You know, I I'll make time
to hang out with friends when it when
553
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:22.320
it works out for everybody. You
know, I'm definitely more of a homebody
554
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:28.039
than I have been in the past. You know, I love San Diego
555
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.400
for so many reasons and and there's
been times in my life where I love
556
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:37.079
the the fun part of San Diego
a little too much. You know so.
557
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.760
And and you know I used to
be a security guard, bouncer,
558
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:49.119
security manager over in downtown gas lamp
area and a couple different spots and some
559
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.239
stories. Oh, I definitely do, you know, but it was it
560
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:59.480
was mostly, you know, a
job that I needed to help pave the
561
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:06.360
way or help me continue to chase
my Jiujitsu goals and dreams. And I
562
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:12.000
also have a May at the time. So but now that I'm, you
563
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.360
know, away from all that and
I have a school and I train full
564
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:22.800
time, I I definitely have to, you know, allow myself to rest
565
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:29.199
correctly and and get in as much
of my own down time as possible.
566
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:35.519
You know, the past few weeks, you know, I was traveling every
567
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.039
weekend. I think four weeks in
a row I went to, you know,
568
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.880
somewhere else. You know, I
was, you know, went down
569
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:49.000
to Arizona to to train and teach
a couple privates. Following weekend I went
570
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:55.119
to Ventora to have a super fight
with ajagas arm. Following weekend I was
571
00:44:55.159 --> 00:45:00.960
at the La Open, and then
the weekend after that I was coaching all
572
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:07.599
my students and members at World League
in del Mar and then last weekend was
573
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:14.599
Vegas. So this so, needless
to say, this week I've been,
574
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.000
you know, I've been resting as
much as I can and in let my
575
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.559
body heal and, you know,
and now it's like, okay, you
576
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.360
know, I didn't train Friday or
or Thursday. So, you know,
577
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.760
I did some Yoga and now I'm
going to hit up open Matt on Sundays
578
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.599
and Sundays I usually chill or drill
or both. You know, I'll do
579
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:42.280
we'll do some very light drilling,
but, you know, Sundays I usually
580
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.360
don't train, you know. So, you know, I figure let's mix
581
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:49.599
it up, you know, have
that balance. You know, I've rested
582
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:53.239
a little bit and I've been wanting
to come to, you know, Open
583
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:58.599
Matt at Legion for a while,
you know. You know all my friends
584
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.239
have gone. I just haven't gone
because Sundays are more, you know,
585
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.679
for me. You know. So, yeah, the rest is very important,
586
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.159
you know, it's that's how I'm
that's the only way I'm able to,
587
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.800
you know, keep going, you
know. And and last year I
588
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.800
was I was hustling so hard in
the in the Jiu jitsu grind, that
589
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:25.119
I was definitely feeling burnt out,
you know. or I would come home
590
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:30.679
on a Saturday after being at the
gym for like six hours teaching, you
591
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:35.360
know, teaching, drilling, you
know, whatever it was, and I
592
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:39.920
was so tired, I couldn't eat, too tired to like shower, too
593
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.119
tired to I want to do anything, you know. So you know,
594
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.280
this year I'm making it a priority
to really we truly have that balance,
595
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:54.000
you know, and not and not
stress so much. You know, if
596
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:59.079
if I don't need to stress about
something, I'm not going to. You
597
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.719
know, it's it's definitely, you
know, stressful kill you before anything else
598
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:09.840
will right. Most definitely don't sweat
the small stuff. So that's a perfect
599
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:15.519
segment to this to this next question. What is there anything that you found
600
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.519
outside of Jiu Jitsu that you think
might even help your Jiujitsu or your mental
601
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.559
health? You know, me and
my buddy during the pain and Theem you
602
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.840
know, we couldn't train. I
wanted to get a mountain bike because I
603
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:30.039
moved up into the foothills, but
I couldn't find one and I ended up
604
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:35.800
finding a skateboard. Me and my
buddy just started skating because we're in the
605
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.079
central valley, we don't have the
beach, but when we do get to
606
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.119
the beach we do also like to
try to surf, even though we suck
607
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:45.519
at it, but it's an often
distraction, you know, when we're doing
608
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:50.840
those types of activities, I feel
like I'm just I'm in the zone and
609
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.239
nothing else exists. Do you have
anything like that? You know, my
610
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.960
girlfriend and I, we like to
hike, you know. You know,
611
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.360
a couple times a year, you
know. You know, past year or
612
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:09.480
so we've been going up to big
bear and that's it's so awesome to get
613
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:15.400
away and be in the outdoors and
get some fresh air and, you know,
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venture out into the into nature and, you know, and and just,
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you know, just find some nice
relaxing views. But hiking is definitely
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something we enjoy. You know,
I have surfed in the past, you
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know, and and I always you
know, my friends, my teammates and
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friends, are always like, Ahff, we got to go surfing, you
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know, but we haven't. We
haven't really made it happy yet. But
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that's because everyone's schedules are so busy, you know. It's like, you
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know, I have some you know, the some teammates who routolo's. They'll
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like always mentioned surfing, but they're
always traveling, you know, and I'm
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always teaching at my gym and Alpine, so it's kind of hard to find
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these you know, these these rendezvous
you know, to surf. But yeah,
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we're outside of that though, you
know. You know, I definitely
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enjoy you know, jogging, running
at the beach with my girlfriend, hiking.
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You know, we'll go check out
some parks will, you know,
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will definitely treat ourselves to, you
know, eating out when we would deserve
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it. So yeah, that's kind
of like my my goat too. You
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know, we recently just did yoga
at the studio that, you know,
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that I went to a while ago
when I first was a you know,
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and I was a training as a
purple belt. But yeah, you know,
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it's these are these are the kind
of things I like to do outside
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of Jiu Jitsu. That's awesome,
man. Well, if you're ever in
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the area, we're like forty five
minutes from the door of you seventy national
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park. There's some nice views out
there too. Nice. Yeah, that's
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definitely something we're always planning, like
her and I are like trying to plan
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some, you know, National Park
visits or, you know, the red
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woods or you know just anything that's, you know, breathtaking. We recently
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were in Colorado, you know,
we went up there for our birthday and
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it was I mean we denver is
not the best repertation representation of Ardo.
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Yeah, once we got outside of
Denver, you know, we went to
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a red rock amphitheater. It was
yellow. NOPE, amazing. Yeah,
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I used to live live out there, so, yeah, I could definitely
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test for that, man. It's
awesome. Well, Jeff, that was
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my last question, because do you
have any more questions for Jeff? No,
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man, no, sure don't.
Well, Jeff, thank you so
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much, man. We're going to
let you get going to your open man
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over there. It has been an
honor, my brother. Thank you so
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much for taking time out of your
day answer all our questions. Like I
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mentioned before, you really are true
inspiration. Jeff. Thank you so much,
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man. I feel, and I
mentioned this again, I feel like
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our Jutsu just leveled up and hopefully
all, I'm sure I know all the
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listeners out there feel the same way. Thank you so much again. And
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is there anyone you'd like to mention
or think before we wrap this up?
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Yes, definitely like to thank all
my sponsors, my lucky gie, the
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the Jiujitaro. Obviously I'm wearing Jiujitaro, sure, right now. Yeah,
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I'll also electron performance auto's HQ.
I'll Pine Jiu Jitsu, which is my
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home gym that I teach at.
You know, like to thank my girlfriend,
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who's also a Badass purple belt.
You know, she competes at every
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tournament that I'm at as well.
You know, she's a huge, huge
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part of why my life is what
it is now, you know, and
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recent years, my my Jiu Jitsu
and my health has leveled up so much
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because of her, her her positive
influence on me and, of course,
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all my friends and teammates. You
know, that shows love and support and
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and especially all the new people out
there that showed love after the trials.
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Appreciate everyone that was you know,
you know, became a fan. Hey,
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yeah, man, make you so
much. Yeah, thank you so
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much. After on that, I
really we really appreciate you coming on the
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show, man, I and I
reached out to you. I I said,
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man, super motivational. Watched your
match and was like blown away.
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I mean, everyone out there is
competing, you know, I mean the
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whole weekend was was amazing. But
yeah, watching you out there getting it
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done, doing it that by that
you had before during your match afterwards.
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Yeah, loved it, man,
you know, and you know, definitely
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going to you know, be looking
for you again out there on the mats
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watching, you know, watching your
next one, your next win here and
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there and man, thank you so
much for coming on the show. Of
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course. No. Thank you guys
again for having on true honor man.
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Thank you so much, Jeff.
That's a wrap, jiujit deals. We
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hope you enjoyed that interview. Hopefully
it inspired you guys as much as it
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inspired us. Jeff, keep doing
your thing, brother. We would love
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to have you come back on here
when you got some extra time. Take
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care. Until next time, Jug
deals, keep rolling and training and we
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hope to hear from you soon.
Peace. This is the motivation.
