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This is the motivation. Hey,
everybody, welcome to another episode of Jiujit.
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THATAL's coast to coast, the podcast
that talks about what's important on at
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off the mats, Frank. I'm
joined by my homeboy Fonso. What's going
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on, Fonzo? Going on,
man? I'm fucking doing great. Only
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worked half a day to day,
so I'm fucking doing great. Had all
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that's a long yeah, plus,
you know, we just had that holiday,
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so I took some extra time off. Had a last Friday off too.
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So I'm doing great, man,
I'm doing great. I'm excited to
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be talking you. I got a
cool ass topic for today and I know
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you got some cool topic to so
I can't wait talk to you about that
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as well. How are you doing? Tell everybody what this episode is going
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to be about. Man, what
are we doing on this one? So
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I'm I been looking into this,
you know, reading some articles about you.
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Supposed to see we're doing forty with
friends and they get to your topic.
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All right, we're doing for the
s with friends. I know,
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I fucked up, man, Damn. All Right, let me all right
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start over. Go. Hey,
everybody, what's up? What's up?
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We're doing fortis with the friends,
and here I'm tough, all right,
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and I'm talking about there's just been
reading articles, man, about the labor
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shortage. You know, I'm talking
about like people just not being, not
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going to work. And you talk
about like a hospitals, they're not delivering
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babies and stuff. That's it,
man. I think you're not putting enough
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work. Man, I'm not putting
enough work. We got it, we
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gotta I'm not trying to be a
baby daddy, I'll tell you that right
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now. Tell that to the baby
mamas out there reading on this late anyways,
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Dam man, but, like you
know, people just don't don't want
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to work or not able to work
or whatever it is, you know.
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But okay, now there's now I
know what you're talking about. Not Talking
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about babies, talking about jobs,
jobs, right, like Jay, you
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know, I'm and it. Yeah, and dud didn't. Seems like everywhere
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you go there's people like they're looking
for workers. Dude, you go to
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go to eat at a restaurant,
like you know, it takes forever to
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get, you know, to get
service or whatever. Like what was it
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like? A couple weeks ago,
I was in Fresno, you know,
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kicking it whatever, went to go, you know, just have you know,
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just like in the afternoon, go
grab a grab a beer and,
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you know, grab some you know, snacks or whatever, like, you
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know, finger foods, and dud. It took them forever to serve us.
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And, you know, we realize
it was one person working the whole
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damn restaurant. Well, two people
to cook. The Cook and the bartender
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will the only people working in this
little pub, right. That's it.
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So like she was fucking you know, serve and drinks, taking orders,
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busing shit and this and that.
So that's why I took forever and we
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felt bad. We're like, Oh
man, you know, I'm we're not
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trying to hate on this place because
obviously this these people are fucking hard working.
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You know, they're there by themselves
trying to the best. Yeah,
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but, you know, I mean
like, you know, we understand,
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like hey, man, like you
don't need a couple more people to add
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to your stress. So we end
up just saying hey, you know,
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think you anyways. And you know, we just went somewhere else. So
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we understood. But you know,
like that's the kind of shit you see
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more often now. So I started, you know, reading articles about why
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that is, and that's what I'm
going to talk about today and some things
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that we might be able to,
you know, do to help us with
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this whole situation. Well, that
was a long way of telling us that
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you're gonna be talking about the labor
shortage. All right, yes, good,
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it's good. Tell a good,
strong foundation. I like that.
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I like that. Yeah, what
about you? What do you what do
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you talk to us about today?
All, I'M gonna be talking about our
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superhero are our podcast superhero, Joe
Rogan. So I'M gonna be talking a
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little bit about him. He's been
in the news late Lya for not some
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not so good reasons, but I
really want to talk about all the reasons,
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good and bad. Okay, all
right, sounds interesting. Now,
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see that that you you just like
tickled. You know my interest. You
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Pique my interests there. So you
know, I was going to say something
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else, but never mind this bringing
gi right now. anyways. anyways,
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all right, so why me to
start soften kick it off home boy.
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Cool, all right, Matt.
So, like I said, man,
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you know the articles that I've been
reading. We're just talking about how,
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like this is a nationwide issue,
right, like this whole labor shortage.
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They're just not enough people out there
wanting to work or willing to work or
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whatever it is. You know,
fit various reasons. You know, some
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people are just they got comfortable with
covid you know, getting that paycheck unemployment.
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You know, they don't have to
worry about it. Other people,
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you know, man, maybe they
were just burnt out. You know,
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they know, just fucking got tired
of working. You know, they were
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got tired of the low wages,
or a combination of it all, I
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don't know. You know, there's
there's experts out there who whose job it
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is who try to figure this shit
out and they're still arguing about it.
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So I'm not even going to attend
to to even, you know, think
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about why that might be, because
fuck if they can't figure it out,
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I'm not gonna figure it out.
But the point is that, you know
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what I mean, they're the point
is that there's like all kinds of shit
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out there. There's just the reasons
why people aren't working. So, you
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know, that kind of puts pressure
on the whole system. Right there's a
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reason why we're not getting our packages
in time. All kinds of fucking supply
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chain issues, like I said before, like you go to restaurant, you
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know you don't have the service that
you once did. And you know just,
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you know, just if you're in
the industry where or you're in a
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position where you have to hire people, like I do, you know it
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makes your job extra harder, you
know, just because you're you want to
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have people there to help you run
your business or whatever it is, and
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it's they're really hard to fund.
It just takes a lot more effort to
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find those people. So, you
know, the articles that I was reading,
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they were talking about that and what
can we do, or what cause
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or whatever? What is some of
the reasons? And again it's hard to
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tell what caused it. But one
of the things that, you know,
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are consistently. I've been looking at
and I've you know, there's three different
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articles that I've read. One of
them is from Market Watch. It's an
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opinion piece, but I still think
it's still worth reading, and that was
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published in January of this year.
And then there was a another article published
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by Forbes in November two thousand and
twenty one, and then there was another
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article that I looked up recently published
by NBC Meat Depress and that was published
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January ninth of this year. So
they all three are fairly reason and a
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recent and they they all kind of
say the same thing. And one of
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them has to do with immigration.
Dude. You know, immigration has dwindled
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over the past few years for many
reasons. You know, one of them,
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you know, immigration policies is under
the last administration, you know kind
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of you know, they got tougher. You know what I mean? That
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a lot of a lot of restrictions
were placed on immigration during the last administration.
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That has still cared over to this
administration. Nothing has really changed there.
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So that kind of kepts more people
from coming to the country. And
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I'm talking about not just, you
know, undocumented or unlawful entries, but
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also, you know, just legal
migration. Do you like, you know,
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people applying for work visas or people
coming in for, you know,
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refugee visas and stuff like that,
like all these different people that normally would
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be here in the states are no
longer here. And some of the articles
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that I was reading, actually all
three of these articles, were staying that
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you know, most immigrants, more
immigrants, will go towards service industries,
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like more than native born workers.
So, to give an example, it
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like they they had a statistic that
said that, you know, in the
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service industry you would find maybe eight
percent of the like an eight percent difference
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in the people who go into a
service industry who are native born versus foreign
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born or, you know, just
immigrants, so meaning that when you have
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such a big reduction in the workforce
of immigration, it causes less people to
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be available to work in those industries. So that's why you see a lot
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of those shortages. The same thing
goes for like deliveries, delivery drivers and
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people in manufacturing. So that's part
of it and a lot of it can
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be fixed if we were able to
process those visas quicker, because right now
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there's like an eight months to one
year backlog in processing these visas or work
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permits for people waiting for them and
you know, they're really just they're waiting
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to be stamped, you know what
I'm saying, like they're just you know,
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the they you you see, CIS, which is the department that approves
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these visits, is just like super
backlog. They don't have the manpower,
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they don't have the people to review
them and approve them, and that could
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be fixed if we were able to
expand their budget and get them to hire
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more people so that way they can
process all these permits and visas. So
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but that's kind of like an immediate, you know, like a real quick
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type of a fix, and it
won't solve the whole thing because there's not
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really there's not enough of these these
people to, you know, to fill
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all the vacant spots that are out
there. So there's still a lot more.
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But the biggest thing is that while
we do have this immediate shortage,
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in the future, all three articles
are saying that we're going to have a
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bigger issue in the future because what's
going to happen is a lot of the
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baby boomers have started to retire right
HMM, so that we don't have enough
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workers, for native born workers,
to replace all those people that are going
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to be retiring in the next,
I don't know, ten years. So
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they've already started to retire. That's
another reason, another part of the problem
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that we did we have the shortage
is that we're now seeing the effects of
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the baby boom or generation retiring and
not enough people entering the workforce to also
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make up for that deficit, and
that's going to continue happening for the next
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ten years, even twenty years down
the road. They're just there. There
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isn't as many people being born after
that generation to meet that demand. So
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that's what these articles kind of mainly
focus on. Is Long Term Immigration is,
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you know, how can we make
it so that will we have a
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stable supply of labor in the states
to fill all these different positions? And
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Yeah, immigration is a great way
to do that. The problem is,
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you know, the sentiments around in
this country, you know, concerning immigration,
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country routing. It's been. It's
been awfully you know what I mean.
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There's lies, I been told,
and just you know, myth.
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Yeah, so it's you know,
it's sad too, because look, on
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one side I get it kind of
right, like people are afraid, like
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of who knows what, you know, the boogeyman coming over and, you
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know, running amuck and I'd states, you know, in your hometown care
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and here are we and we worried
about funds, though, Alinda heroin,
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not at the country. I get
that and I get that right, because
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anybody would be scared of, you
know, or worried about their family and
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the effect right on our country.
I get it. I get the sentiment
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and you know, one of the
biggest talking points for a lot of people
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is like well, I you know, I just don't like illegal immigration.
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If you do it the legal way, there's no problem, right. So
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I have a big problem with those
that statement, and my problem with that
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statement is that in the the the
process to migrate legally is so difficult,
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very difficult, even under normal some
circumstances. Like right now, like I
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said, there's this backlog of eight
to two one eight months to one year
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to process these work permits and visis. Dude, there's always a backlog,
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there's always and there's all these hoops
that people have to jump through that are
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just so unnecessary. Not to mention
that. But you know, the our
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system here, and I'd says for
immigration, is not the best. There's
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other systems that other countries adopt that
actually have a much better way of recognizing,
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you know, who might be able
to immigrate a lot quicker and accurately,
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and then also, you know,
you get to see who these people
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are like. That's the whole point, right, like you want to be
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able to create a system where people
can be vetted, but be vetted in
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a timely manner, so that way
they can make its United States and benefit
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not only them. Because, look, the reality is the United States is
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going to always going to be like
a nation of immigrants and it depends on
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immigrant labor. You'd it always has, no matter what, from the very
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inception, you know what I mean, like not to take it back to
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this era, but tod white slavery, you know what I mean, like
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that was a whole point of alium. They important people, Empire, state
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building. Yeah, so, you
know, to it to ignore that,
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you know, immigrants played and still
continue to play in a pivotal role in
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what America is is not a good
idea, man, it's ignorant, you
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know I mean. So, yeah, it just truth that with immigrant like
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right, and it's going to continue
to do so, it continues to need
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it. So just to continue to
vilify immigrants is a terrible thing to do.
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You know, not just for you
know, like just for the sake
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of people in humanity, but also
just look at it at in terms of
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the United States being prosperous and of
continuing to be a prospers nation. It
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needs immigrants and they have to be
able to have a way to come here
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to work in you know, eventually
integrate and become part of American society.
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You know what I mean? Like
my GRANDPA was part of the BAS settle
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program back in the day. That
was a you know, that wasn't the
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greatest program, but it was not
but exactly exactly, you know what I
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mean, if it was tweaked,
if there was a different way of doing
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things, you know, you know, some countries have like we call the
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point system where, you know,
you fill out the application and for different
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in the skills and things like that, that you have education, if you
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speak English, you know, different
things like that, they award you points.
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The more points you have, the
more likely you are to be able
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to be granted, you know,
a visa to come to United States or
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to to be go into the country, and that's something that we can try,
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you know, depending on what the
needs of the labor market are at
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that point. You know what I
mean, like if we need more engineers,
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and of course those are people are
going to people would engineering experience and
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backgrounds are going to get priority.
You know, if we need farm laborers,
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for example, you know, we
can have different grants here for them.
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You know, I'm saying so you
can develop these systems to help us
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United States and help you know,
anybody who's willing and able to come to
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United States to find work and a
chance of the better life, man,
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because that's all we're here to do, right. We all want the same
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thing, for sure. Yeah,
and that's my topic, man. That's
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what's up and that was cool.
That's very informative. Man, D when
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you were researching this, where their
countries that used that you remember reading about
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that have a because you mentioned that
there are some countries that have a better
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processing, a better way of processing
immigration. Do you remember recalling any countries
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off the time? One of them
was Canada. Canada has a similar system
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like that, I know right.
And the other one, man, I
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got to look for it. Let
me see, I wrote it down.
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Let me see if my notes,
but it was some it was a country
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in your I think it might have
been France, but I can look that
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up and see you. But yeah, there's a few countries that have that
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have a system like that and I
think, if I'm not mistaken, our
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current system United States is like the
lottery system, where you basically just people
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apply and then you know whoever,
just luck of the draw. And yes,
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that's why doesn't see you can really
vision anybody that? Well, I
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mean obviously, obviously they're going to
make you, you know. I mean
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working past the background checking all that, right, right, and then once
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that happens and they like Oh,
yeah, well, look, you know,
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good, here it is. Well, before it gets to the lucky
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draw there's a process already in place. Yeah, so it's not like Oh,
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number twenty seven, you get to
come across, right, right,
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I guess that. I feel like
that's what a lot of people think is
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happening, like they just think they're
just going to pick anybody, and it's
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never been that way. You know, as a matter of fact, like
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if you just put in the paperwork
by yourself, you're probably going to get
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denied. You know, most of
the time. I'm not. I've had
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family members in the past where we've
sponsored a family member to come to come
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over. You know, you gotta
be you gotta like turn in paperwork,
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you got to turn in like your
tax return for I don't know how long
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to verify that. Yeah, if
this person comes over here and does bootle
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this mother it, you're in charge
or you're responsible for them, and that's
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a different process. Franct that you're
talking about, because what I was talking
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about is somebody doesn't have any ties
to United States and it's kind of a
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lot of system. If you have
somebody that is already living here, like
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a family member, then you would
go under the same track. Right,
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that would be a faster track,
but it still takes a long ass time
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and yeah, they dig in pretty
heavily. You know. We I've been
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in that position to like, not
myself personally, that I sponsored somebody,
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but people in my family of sponsored
other people in our family. Came in
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a bag of oranges. Remember that
was crazy. Yeah, I know,
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man, we get learned that three
times. Oh, and I found the
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article. It's the Forbes article and
it was Canada and Australia. Actually not
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in Europe. My mistake. Okay, it was Australia. WHO has that
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system? Yep, made Lord of
the room. Yeah, that was New
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Zealand. I know, I'm just
fucking around, but now loading right now.
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Yeah, I yeah. And then, so what I was going to
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say is so that. Yeah,
I mean if you have if you have
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family member, makes it easier,
but just, you know, getting getting
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to that point, it takes a
long time and it's not a. it's
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not cheap either. You know it. You're right, it does require like
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a like immigration lawyer. The processes
is a lot. So you know,
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if you're going to have that kind
of a process and you know you need
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workers, it's not very efficient.
You know, you need to find a
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more efficient way of doing that.
You know, like I said, and
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it was it was done before the
but I settle program so it's not like
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it can't be done again. It
just needs to be done better, for
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sure. Yeah, yeah, just
a way to legitimize it in and make
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sure that the right people are getting
in and nobody's getting taken advantage of any
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way by form workers or by the
government agencies or by people in these other
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countries that, Matt that might prey
upon People's hopes and dreams of coming to
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this country. You know what I
mean because I mean I only speak for
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I because I have relatives in Mexico. So I know, like do you
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come over here and you get a
job at freaking Jack in the box?
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Your you hit the Jackpot, you
know what I mean. You get a
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regular ass job like that, you're
getting paid like, imagine what you're getting
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paid right now, and then in
a gem myself. Fonso, we move
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to Madagascar, you're going to make
ten times at you be like, what
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the fuck, let's go. That's
literally what happens. If they're no,
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what am I doing here? And
in other countries even more. Yeah,
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yeah, exactly. So a lot
of times people come over here and they'll
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take any job and they'll take any
wage because it's more than they've ever made
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in their whole life. You know
that that brings about other problems as well,
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you know, but it's just there's
it's just kind of like you fix
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one problem and then then this other
problem arises. So, I mean it's
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I just feel for the people because
I understand what it's like, you know,
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for for someone to come from a
from a from a place where there's
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just the the there's just no hope
or there's just no way of being able
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to make it somehow. You know, yeah, coming over here and just
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work and work and the American dream, you know, you come, you
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work hard and and you make something
of yourself and and it could happen.
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You know, you could get a
job, a forty hour a week job,
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and be able to buy a house
and raise your kids and become a
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citizen. I mean that's what happens
with what happened with my dad, you
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know, so right, I mean
exactly. And a lot of people,
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a lot of other people have different
stories, you know, in different reasons
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things for what they did, but
in the end really they're just coming over
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here to work and trying to contribute
to the community. You know what I
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mean in most instances. You know, there there are some stray cats out
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there and just like in any family, you know, they write, there's
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fuck ups and and sometimes those are
those maybe will even get across in in
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this wedding process. But maybe if
we tien the screw somehow do better.
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You know, maybe we can,
like you mentioned, increase funding somehow,
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some way. I mean, yeah, we're spending money on crazy amounts of
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crazy amounts of money on crazy ass
things. I mean I'm sure if we
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did some research, we could find
a multitude of programs that were like,
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are you serious? You're testing what
runs the viscosity of toothpaste and pasta sauce?
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Yeah, now, for Real,
man like. And there's a lot
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of wasted money and government. We
won't we know that. I'm sure we
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can dig up articles and maybe that'll
be a topic for another fort with friends
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on the right down the road rolls. I'm trying to apply for a four
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hundred and three. See and well, at the other point, the other
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point that I wanted to make was
the other thing about like, you know,
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the argument where you know they you
know they took their jobs, you
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know, whatever. You know they're
coming to taking our jobs. Look,
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I don't know. I mean if
we look around now, man like,
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there's less immigrants now than there have
been in the last two and a half
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years. Look at the job storage. Are they really taking the jobs?
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I don't think so. And again, man like, these statistics of the
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baby boomers vacating their jobs. You
know, no, there's gonna be way
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more jobs out there than anybody can
end and can knows what to do with.
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You know what I mean? It's
going to be a shortage, it's
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gonna be bad. So, Noe, you know, they're not taking your
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jobs. There's plenty of jobs out
there. There's not enough workers. That's
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the problem right now. There's not
enough workers. So there's this guy that
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has the job that I want.
He has my job that I had in
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high school, working at Arby's quits. I'm quitting my job and I'm getting
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bad job. Dang lucky son of
a gun. Why'd you even let that
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go? Ever, I know,
Bro, you get the elbow of the
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roast beef when it's done. At
the end of the day, all of
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them little Slovackful. That's our my
bad. Now that's a super informative man,
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because I've been noticing, and I'm
sure a lot of people out there
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all listening you know, have also
noticed. You know, everywhere you go
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it's it is taking a little bit
longer. You know, I mean you
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even you, you go to target
and there's not there's no people to know,
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but he's stock in the shows.
There's no nobody render you're like,
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where's everybody? Yet there this is
we got, Bro, we're trying our
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best. Yeah, yeah, that's
yeah, that's what it is, man.
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So, you know, hopefully this
thing kind of turns around fairly soon,
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because you know, you know it's
needed. You know, workers are
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nearing fourteen year old pretty soon.
Yeah, that's nothing you can do.
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You can roll back the fucking what
are they called? The the worker agild
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Labor Lass, child labor lass.
Yeah, roll those back, all right,
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man. What Nga Tritton we's only
in kindergarten. Playoff Eten, get
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my double cheeseburger now. I'm sorry, don't tell me. Sorry, aiden,
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Hurre you go, it's my first. Shut up, fool. He's
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gonna steal all that's great. He's
gonna stee all the happy meals. Ha
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Ha, it's take those from work. Found your dashful. All right,
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man, what will? What are
you tell talking to us about today?
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All Right, man, I'm going
to talk about did you watch the Super
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Bowl? I did. Yeah,
it was pretty good. You Remember Games.
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You are code commercial. Yeah,
that I got duped. fucked day.
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I did. Yeah, I wasn't
break no if yours, brick fo
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the Chinese were behind that, and
they've chipped your phone. Now you've they've
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downloaded a tick tock like APP.
It looks just like not. Just kidding.
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That's not what I'm talking about.
I was like, full, what
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you had me do that? I
was like, I check my phone.
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I thought it was a Bitcoin for
Crypto. Full, they already unloaded your
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wallet. Fuck, good thing I
don't have anything in there. Ha Ha,
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I don't know crypto. So now
you took me my debt this China.
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Thanks. I knew it all.
Along. That's why I did it
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sweet and I use my mom's phone
too. Sorry, MOM's, but you
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don't own anything. No, might
have had crypto. Yeah, Nah,
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I'M gonna be talking about Joe Rogan, man. I mean one of the
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you know, we talked about this
a lot, you know, one of
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the he's one of the first people
that we listen to. or we even
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why did we listen to Joe Rogan? I mean what are some things you've
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always known about Rogan? Of them? You know what, when I first
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started listening to him, I thought
it was, you know, he's entertaining
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dude, like he you know,
he I like the fact that he had
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like just you know, some just
weird, you know, weird conversations with
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people just, you know, like
fuck man, I can't think of a
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specific person right now, but like
I like that as conversation seemed like they
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were just not plan like they were
just two people talking genuine conversation. Yeah,
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and they would just get into these
cool little topics and then like,
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you know, he seemed to be
genuinely interested in what this other person was
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talking about and of course that person
was like super into their conversation because it's,
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you know, that's it's whatever they
like to talk about. For for
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example, okay, I'll give you
a good one, like Neil de Grass
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Tyson right, like he's one of
my favorite, you know, scientists out
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there. You know, I love, you know, watching him and hearing
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him break things down right, and
like he's breaking down these astro physicists,
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physics, you know, concepts and
Shit, and that I thought that was
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super cool. And just two questions
that Joe Joe asked, you know,
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I found, honestly, just intriguing
and thought provoking, you know, because
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it'd be like questions that I would
ask, you know, just conversation with
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my friends, and you know,
they just seemed to be, you know,
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to have like a really good conversation
and just fun and light hearted.
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you know honest like conversation with people were
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like okay, you know what this
is getting into, like some pretty heavy
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stuff here, but he was able
to keep that that same conversational tone with
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people and you know, that's really
the appeal man like just random, just
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as sortment of ECLECTIC people coming in
and out of his show caught my attention.
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Yeah, well, I mean I've
always known Joe Rogan from I mean
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I'm a little bit older than you. I remember he was on some s,
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some s or ninety Sitcom, or
a ninety Sitcom called news radio,
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and I didn't know who he was, but I remember him being on that
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show. And then after that show
he started coming out on fear factor.
410
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.599
Right, I think by the time
a little bit into fear factor. was
411
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:45.000
when he started doing work with the
UFC and that's when I really became a
412
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.519
big fan of his. And then
then I started doing Jiu Jitsu and then
413
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.640
a little bit after I started doing
Jiu Jitsu I started getting into podcast and
414
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.319
I would just download a bunch of
stuff but I would never listen to anything,
415
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.319
and he was one of the few
that I would download D and in.
416
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.519
Finally he had a guest on that
I'm like, AH, dude,
417
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.000
I want to hear what they're going
to talk about. I want to hear
418
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.599
this. And it was boss route
and it was back in February two thousand
419
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.160
and eleven. It was like episode
eighty three. So I wasn't like the
420
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.680
first, first batch of episodes.
He'd been doing it for a while already,
421
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.519
kind of perfected his little formula and
he had boss on and for those
422
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.279
of you that don't know boss room, boss routine is like a x ufclight
423
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:32.839
heavyweight champ from the early days.
He's a pancrake as champion. He's just
424
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.759
an awesome, awesome dude. He's
got a Jiu Jitsu School, I want
425
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.000
to say like in Beverly Hill somewhere. He used to also train MMA fighters.
426
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.680
He's got an awesome scene in the
documentary on Hicks and Gracie called choke,
427
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.599
where he was training Rico Rodriguez for
a fight against actually wasn't training Rico
428
00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:00.200
rodrigs he was training Mark Kurve for
a fight and Rico Rodriguez was helping out
429
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.400
and boss Routin was the coach,
so he kind of organized the whole thing.
430
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.480
So if you haven't seen choke,
CO check it out. Awesome scene
431
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.880
with boss route. Trust me,
it's worth it. But yeah, he
432
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.920
had boss on as a guest and
Boston. You know, I mean boss
433
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.319
is just awesome do he got crazy
stories and, as a matter of fact,
434
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.759
he boss used it was started telling
stories about being a bouncer. You
435
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.599
said. You know, one of
the things that broken's able to do is
436
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.119
he gets these people in his studio
and it's almost like they forget they're being
437
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.920
recorded because they're just conversating and I
don't know if they were drinking or smoking
438
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.839
weed. On that episode I don't
recall, but a lot of times that's
439
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.519
what he would do back in the
day, you know. And and then
440
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.759
lowers the filter for people a little
bit and they start to open up and
441
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.559
then next thing you know they're they're
telling these cool, awesome stories and boss
442
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.599
told the sickest bouncer stories. That's
where I got the idea for our bouncer
443
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.279
episode. I was so enthralled with
them. Like Matt, someday I would
444
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.400
love to do something where I talked
to bouncers like that, and we were
445
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.519
able to do it and and I
love to do it again. You know
446
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.200
I mean. But that was when
I got like fish hooked into Joe Rogan.
447
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.279
And almost every day, maybe not
even every day, because a lot
448
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.200
of times I would sift through his
get, you know, I would listen
449
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.279
to the I would look at the
guests and I'd be like, I'm not
450
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.079
into that, I'm not even listen
to it, and I wouldn't listen to
451
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.680
it and it would be totally fine. And then the next day or two
452
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.680
days later, because you used to
not pump him out every day. He
453
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.400
used to pump him out like maybe
once a week, maybe twice a week,
454
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:37.119
whatever his schedule allowed him to do, he would do and just as
455
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.119
time progressed and started doing them all
almost every day. Is Pretty much what
456
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.240
he does now if you look at
it. But it was just a cool
457
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.680
deal. You know, where he
would have on these just like you mentioned,
458
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.160
a wide variety of different guests.
He would have on Comedians. Obviously,
459
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.079
because he's a comedian, he was
right there in La you know,
460
00:33:55.200 --> 00:34:00.200
so he had access to all these
high level talents coming in. You know,
461
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.359
a he would catch him at the
show the night before. He would
462
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.079
do a little set himself. They
would do is say they would probably go
463
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:08.920
back, have a couple of drinks
today, coming on my pad, don't
464
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:13.559
do a podcast tomorrow. Bubaba,
and next you know, you listening to
465
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:20.559
to Tony Hinchcliff, you're listening to
Bill Burr, you're listening to Brian Callen.
466
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.039
You know, you got to meet
and get to know all these super
467
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:28.639
cool people and it's, like I
said, they're comedians. Sometimes their scientists,
468
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.000
you know, like you mentioned,
you know, Tyson to Gracie.
469
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.679
Sometimes it's authors, you know.
I mean I know he's had on this
470
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.159
this guy named you. Ever heard
of Graham Hancock? No, no,
471
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:46.760
Graham Hancock, you like, loves
tripping balls on on on fucking what,
472
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.440
on Dante and doing these crazy writing
things and he's got some crazy books.
473
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.320
But he's got some super cool,
interesting stories. You know, Eddie Bravo,
474
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.719
dude. What's not to like about
Eddie Bravo? Should you take them
475
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.760
for the truth? He's just an
entertainer. Who Cares? He loves talking
476
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:10.880
about crazy conspiracy stories. He's got
some funny ass stories, Dude. He
477
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.760
told a story early on in one
of his the podcasts where I'm not even
478
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.000
going to go into the details,
but it involves Eddie Bravo in the middle
479
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:28.559
school and condom that he used.
All Right, what come? Yeah,
480
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.639
it's great, great's crazy, but
you're like, what the fuck are you?
481
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.400
Were you going friend and LIDDLE school? You're like, that's what Shit.
482
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.199
Middle School people do you know?
But again, we listen to these
483
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.400
podcasts. Why? Because it's entertainment. It's just right, something that I
484
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.960
would I used to listen to these
like during my prep period as a matter
485
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.920
of fact, dude, I don't
know if you remember, but I worked
486
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.679
at a middle certain, middle school
in drest no, and it was known
487
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:01.400
for giant rumbles, and one day
I this into a super good podcast.
488
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.639
And, mind you, one whole
side of my classroom is nothing but windows
489
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.239
and there was a giant rumble like
right outside my class I didn't fucking know
490
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.519
what was going on, Dude.
I just put surround sound on, listen
491
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:21.039
to my podcast and I'm just doing
work, dude, because it's just entertaining.
492
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:25.440
You know, it's good stuff,
right. That's again I got introduced
493
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.880
to above a bunch of different Comedians, you know, and then soon after
494
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.320
that I started going down. I
don't know if you remember. You probably
495
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.280
did. You go a couple of
times with this when we went to the
496
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.559
comedy store. No, I don't
think I did, but there was a
497
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.679
handful of times where we we drive
out and go to the comedy store on
498
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.360
Friday night and sometimes random ass people
would just show up all you know.
499
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.039
You you see the lineup and you
be like Ah, cool, I'm you
500
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.039
know it's going to be a good
show no matter what, and then Bobby
501
00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:01.360
Lee drops in or Joe Rogan drove
up scene or Brian Kellen drops in and
502
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.320
you get to see all these people
that you you would hear on the show,
503
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.599
you know firsthand. And then not
only did you did, I get
504
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:14.360
introduced to all these different guess,
but dude, how many commercials does this
505
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:19.599
fool have at the beginning, at
the middle? Now he's mixed, he's
506
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.599
playing us, he's mixing it all
up, but how many commercials does he
507
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.559
have in his podcast? How many
sponsors does that guy have? I don't
508
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.800
know, man, I don't think
I'm to be honest, I don't think
509
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.719
I've ever listened to a whole podcast. I'd like listen to like bits and
510
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.039
pieces of different guests. So I
don't know. I don't think I've ever
511
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.440
listened to a whole show. In
the day he would always start off every
512
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.239
podcast. I mean he still does, see. I mean I keep it
513
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.519
spotify. He starts and then a
little bit later sometimes he adds kick in
514
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.719
or that he'll he has like these
readings that he does for his sponsors.
515
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.000
But do there's been so many things
that he's been like, Hey, I
516
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.280
try this, you should try it
too, and I would always try not
517
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.320
everything that you would plug. I
would try, but dude, I tried
518
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.599
me Undy's, some Toni's. I
tried. But your box, you know,
519
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.960
it's like a like a meat delivery
service. I tried nature box.
520
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.760
It was like a snack of the
month, like a order snack. Ideal.
521
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.199
Yeah, I've seen him push on
that. What's all the yeah,
522
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:27.360
the on it, and I know
the Tim Tam. Yeah, I remember
523
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.920
that. Like that, with that, I've actually bought it. Why?
524
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.360
No, I didn't buy I got
it a gift because one of my friends
525
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.920
knew that I wanted it. But
it's at must fuck. It's like a
526
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.239
it's a massage therapy gun, like
you fucking like it, like it's like
527
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.920
a Jackhammer type of motherfucker. You
press a button and it just stick ass.
528
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.440
Fool. Yeah, yeah, fool, you got the member he off
529
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.400
do. He used to also be
sponsored by fleshlight. How many of those,
530
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:04.360
fool that I'm on my hand my
fifty world became. You became like
531
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:08.000
a lifetime member. You're like I
did full. They're all just keep.
532
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.320
They're on auto reorder fill. They
already know. ha ha ha ha ha
533
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:21.639
ha ha ha ha. He's seeing
you when every five weeks, two weeks
534
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:30.920
every two weeks. Click here,
heed your delivery faster. No, but
535
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.400
seriously, though, man, he's
done a lot for all this. For
536
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:39.559
as long as he's been on,
I've found the what he's been saying very
537
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:46.599
informative and and very maybe not even
informative, but like entertaining, because sometimes
538
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:52.639
he be talking about answers, talk
about ufos, he'll talk about drugs,
539
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.920
he'll talk about freaking fights. You
know what I mean. Like it,
540
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.360
which brings me to another point.
You know I mean it. Actually,
541
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.400
before we go on, I want
to talk about his spotify exclusivity deal.
542
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.159
He signed with spotify, as everybody
knows, and he signed a mega deal
543
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:15.559
fond. Do you remember what the
numbers were originally reported at many when I
544
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.280
first heard it was a remember about
you remember the number that he was going
545
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:25.280
to get paid? Was it like
ten million, a hundred million? It
546
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.639
was in the low hundreds, like
hundred and ten hundred and twenty mill for
547
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.920
x amount of years. Right,
well, right, a couple weeks ago
548
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.360
people started reporting and this was the
in the New York Post, this was
549
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:42.559
in or Washington Post, this was
in the New York Times, this was
550
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:50.000
in readers, this was in Forbes
his deal is actually worth more than two
551
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:57.719
hundred million dollars, and I don't
know if that was the original number,
552
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:04.000
or is it that the number that
he got because of incentence and now it's
553
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.119
blown up into this number. You
know, I mean kind of like the
554
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.280
way athletes, like a quarterback,
of if you throw twenty touchdowns, you'll
555
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.679
get a million dollars, and every
touchdown after that it's like two hundred and
556
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.760
fifty k Moor or whatever. You
know, it's a monetary incentive that they
557
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:24.280
have based on hitting certain numbers,
and this was never spoken about and all
558
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:30.119
of a sudden, you know,
Brogan has been in the news because he's
559
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:36.400
had some some guests on who've been
maybe, depending on what side you're on,
560
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.320
giving some bad information, but he
just keeps been pumping your like,
561
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:46.079
dude, why does he keep putting
these people on? But they get millions
562
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:52.119
of downloads, like those are the
ones that get even more than his regular
563
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:58.000
episodes, sometimes even and he if
you look at his guest list from the
564
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:04.800
last eighteen months, it's changed dramatically
since he signed this deal. I mean
565
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.800
we're in February now of twenty two. He signed the deal to go exclusive
566
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.880
and September. So what's that like? Almost two years of Info there.
567
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.599
Well, this year will be too
full years. So we're like at fourteen,
568
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:27.519
fifteen months, somewhere around there.
But before he signed this exclusive suit,
569
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:34.039
exclusive deal with spotify, one of
the episodes that I would always look
570
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.599
forward to listening to would be his
fight companions. You have. Did you
571
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.519
ever listen to any of those,
Fonso, no, I don't think I
572
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.679
did. Man, all right,
I don't. I'm not sure if you
573
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.719
guys out there listening ever ever listen
to these five Joe Rogans old fight companions.
574
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:52.039
But basically, imagine, like if
we were going to podcast live and
575
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.199
we got to do this. All
right, we're gonna do this. We're
576
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:58.079
going to do our own fight.
I am be it for WHO's number one
577
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.800
or a DCC or a UFC or
a fight night or a pay you whatever,
578
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.719
we're going to do it. But
basically what he would do is he'll
579
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.639
be like, basically, imagine if
I go Fondo Saturday night, my pad,
580
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.880
we're going to record, bring some
meat, cousin at we're recording at
581
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:22.800
seven. Bring some drinks, Eddie, we're seven o'clock, bringing some weed
582
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.960
or you don't even whatever, but
everybody it would just be like a pot
583
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.079
look and then you would not all
right, you know, everyone knows with
584
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.599
time to fight start, when the
fight start. Were recording and we're going,
585
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:37.039
all right, tell a fights are
starting right now. Tell everybody countdown
586
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:38.920
and first round and starting in five
hundred and forty three, in case you
587
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.119
want to scenk up with us.
Boom. So it's live at the moment
588
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:49.920
for the fights and they're just really
they're supposed to be commenting, commentating on
589
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.679
the fights that Joe wouldn't be working
on. You know what I mean?
590
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.320
You know like, Oh, you
look at this, I heard that he's
591
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.440
been working on this, and you
know just kind of the things that that
592
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.400
you wouldn't be able to he wouldn't
be able to share on a pay per
593
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.079
view or on the show. You
get it. You get that a little
594
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.239
bit of inside because Sometimes Brien shop
would be there. Sometimes it might be
595
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:15.519
like an actual you see fighter or
a retired fire you know, or an
596
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.400
or a coach. So it would
be super cool. But you know,
597
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.280
as the show would go on,
they'd be having drinks or they would smoke
598
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.320
and they would get a little off
track, sidetrack, but they would tell
599
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:30.079
goodass stories, you know, and
that's really when I really wanted to get
600
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:35.480
into podcasting, was after listening to
those episodes. But since he switched over
601
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.559
to spotify he hasn't done any and
as a matter of fact, he's done
602
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.760
twenty one mma show since then.
I don't have the numbers on how many
603
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.599
he did before, but it was
like almost once a month before that and
604
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.159
he'd been on since two thousand and
nine, I want to say two thousand
605
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:59.000
and ten right. I went back
and I looked at I went back to
606
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:07.000
like late fall of last year and
he's had one MMA show in July.
607
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.440
In January with Julie Ampania, he's
had to. He had to in December.
608
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:17.719
Before that he had one in October
and then before that he had two
609
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.440
in August and then I didn't go
any further than that. And then again
610
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.239
no fight companions. The last fight
companion was July eleven of two thousand and
611
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.440
twenty. So, Oh, I
don't know if he's also you know,
612
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.920
when he started the spotify deal,
that's when he moved to out moved to
613
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.760
Texas, and one of the things
that he was able to do when he
614
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.280
was in la was that's where all
his homies were. So it's homies would
615
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.519
just drop in sometimes. So right, I don't know if it's that he
616
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:52.360
doesn't have the same kind of friends
in Texas. He's got that spotify money
617
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:57.480
full flying man on a jet.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, do these
618
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.480
five companions and they're funny, man, you know they're they're so good.
619
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.360
I mean how many times that be? Will you watch the fight with your
620
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.360
friends and your barbe queen and you're
having drinks and you're watching the fights and
621
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:15.679
someone's dad tells a crazy ass story
about Vietnah or someone's crazy ass work story.
622
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.360
You know, I mean it's just
good, good stuff. You know.
623
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.519
So so you think? You think
that that spotify is affecting like all
624
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.719
that stuff that he's not doing anymore. Like is it like them pushing like
625
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.079
a man? You got to get
more ratings, so this was getting you
626
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:35.960
more rating. So like do more
of this less of that. I definitely
627
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.800
think that. I definitely think that, and then even more so when he
628
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.960
came out and gave that message like
Hey, I'm not doing anything, I'm
629
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.639
just getting both sides, and which
he does. But I key, sometimes
630
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.719
he seems to sprinkle the other side
and he agrees with the other side,
631
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.280
which is totally fine. I don't
give a shit. That's totally fine,
632
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.119
and if you want to agree with
him, you can as well, you
633
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.239
know. And as a matter of
fact, I remember somebody that I follow
634
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.000
on Insta posted something about him when
when he was catching a lot of heat,
635
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.920
and I was like Bro, I
commented on it and I shouldn't have,
636
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:15.320
but I did, and I said
something like bro He's a comedian,
637
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:22.760
UFC commentator. Why the fuck do
I care? Or why the fuck would
638
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:28.159
I ask him about health advice?
I'm ask him about a joke, or
639
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.199
I would ask him about a fighter, because he would have better knowledge about
640
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.079
that than I would, you know. But I'm you might as well ask
641
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:42.400
him about how to fix a rocket
or about the solar system or about the
642
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.519
Big Bang theory, because he's gonna
know nothing about that as well. Right,
643
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.400
yeah, and then somebody came back
at somebody actually responded and came back
644
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.920
at me and they're like, oh, so, do you think you should
645
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:02.079
just be listening to your doctor or
big Farma or whoever you want? And
646
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.639
I go yeah, you should let
into whoever you want, regardless of who
647
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.480
you know and but that's what I
that's what I'm saying, Dude. And
648
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:19.000
the more people have turned on him, the more people are listening and he's
649
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.840
reaping the benefits like this. Two
hundred meal didn't just come out of nowhere.
650
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.960
You know it's been there. I'm
sure it's been a goal that he's
651
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:30.719
been working on. I'm sure spotify
was like a bull. You're getting crazy
652
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.639
ass numbers. Keep this up,
because this was in their plan. This
653
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.079
was, if you go back and
read about like the early business plan of
654
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.679
spotify. Since Day one they've been
wanting to become number one in the podcast
655
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.679
industry. They've been trying to take
down apple and they finally did it.
656
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.960
In December they were number one in
podcasting. The of all the podcast platforms
657
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.559
out there, they were had they
had the most listens, the most download
658
00:48:55.119 --> 00:49:01.360
that's no accident. There's no accident
in there that Brogan had a big part
659
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.880
of that. That's why they're paying
him the big bucks. The money's paying
660
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.239
off. I'll, I'll you know, the saying you get what you pay
661
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.000
for is shit. A hundred million
dollars, think about what you're going to
662
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:19.840
get it right, right, and
and I just like I'm kind of sad
663
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.360
about it, you know. I'm
like, I would do the same,
664
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:27.960
you know I would. I would
be like, hey, fucking grape juice
665
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.320
is the best. I hate grape
juice, but I'll tell you it's the
666
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:37.159
best. If they're going to pay
me, you know, maybe grape juice.
667
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:38.400
But I don't know if I would
sell like poop water or anything like
668
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:43.400
that. I want hurt people,
but if I can make some money and
669
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.039
do something that is just going to
sell a little bit of myself, I'll
670
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.800
do it. I'm fine with that. You won't be mad when you got
671
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.599
that new studio of fund zone.
I don't know, man, I don't
672
00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.920
know. We'll see, I guess. I guess I won't know until I'm
673
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.840
percented with that decision. Right now, I'm well know, tell the Mexican
674
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:10.800
construction workers are shown up at your
house lasting something. I'm on a Yalla
675
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:19.519
and laying concrete to install my new
pool. All right, done, all
676
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:23.119
right, a podcasts from the pool. Okay, yeah, I don't know,
677
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:28.199
man. I Guess I'll cross that
bridge. Is Bad, because what's
678
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.000
that? I said? I'll cross
that bridge when I get there. I
679
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.039
guess once that once that offers made, then I'll figure out if I can
680
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.079
sell my soul or not. Once
the concrete drives, there's no going back.
681
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:46.159
Okay, but I just thinking,
you know, that I missed the
682
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:52.320
old Joe Rogan. The old Joe
Rogan would have on like a fucking scientist
683
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.119
that is working on crazy backteria.
I don't know. He would just have
684
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:01.719
the weirdest guess on at the randomnest
times, you know, sometimes fighters,
685
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:07.719
sometimes doctors, sometimes whatever. And
now it just kind of seems like it's
686
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:12.960
the same recurring theme over and over
and the a lot of the same a
687
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.440
lot of the people that he used
to have on he doesn't have on as
688
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:22.039
often and again. That could be
because the location change, but it's it's
689
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.840
kind of sus to me, you
know. Yeah, I mean it's normal,
690
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.000
man, whenever you're getting paid like
that. I mean because it's no
691
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:34.719
longer his podcast, you know.
I mean it's not just him to control,
692
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.760
like he's Zac go. It's not
got a bottle Brogan on modify.
693
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.840
Yeah, yeah, he's got a
boss now. Yeah, I mean like
694
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:46.079
he he didn't before, now he
does. So you know, it is
695
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:52.239
what it is and you know,
like he's got to take it. I
696
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.920
mean he's got two hundred million dollars. He can't be that mad. Belongs
697
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:04.960
to the streets. That's street is
called spotify. So yeah, that's too
698
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:10.039
bad, man. So maybe someone
he can fill that void. But yeah,
699
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.960
it's too bad, but it is
what it is, you know what
700
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.800
I mean? Congratulations to him for
getting that two hundred mill him and his
701
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:22.039
family set for life. He's still
putting out awesome podcasts. You know,
702
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:24.400
I'll live. I'll give a listen
to his episodes every now and then.
703
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.079
I haven't heard a full episode.
I want to say maybe I've listened to,
704
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.360
like to complete episodes of his since
he switched over to spotify. I
705
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.519
can't think of the second episode.
I'm like, Oh, actually know,
706
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:42.920
I am. Like two episodes that
I listened to all the way were one
707
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.880
of his MMA shows from this last
December with Cheeto vetta on. You guys
708
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.960
know who cheat the better, the
UFC fighter, dude. That's a really
709
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:55.320
cool podcast. Listen to that one
cool backstory. That's like if I,
710
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.400
if you were, if I were, you were to ask me like,
711
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:01.440
Hey, what's a good what's a
part Joe Rogan episode that I actually listen
712
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.039
to? That I'll get a good
feel for what his episodes are like.
713
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.800
That would be one that's a classic
Joe Rogan episode where you're going to get
714
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:14.280
stories you're not going to hear anywhere
else. You're going to hear I mean
715
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.800
you'll get heat do he even gets
into his tattoos, you know, like
716
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.079
personal stories like that. He talked
about his first day in the gym.
717
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:28.400
He talks about his first five craziness, craziness. And then the other episode
718
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:31.119
that I would highly, highly recommend
you go listen to, and I don't
719
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:37.000
know the number and they I want
to say it was like from from January
720
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.559
of last year or February of two
thousand and twenty one, and it was
721
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:46.239
when he had Francis and Gonu on. Do anybody out there listen to that
722
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:52.840
episode? That's a fucking movie Bro
that move. That Guy Story, amazing,
723
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:58.400
AH, amazing. Gold listen to
that story, to that episode.
724
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:00.800
It's like a little it's it's a
long one, like two plus hours,
725
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:07.920
but it's just cliff having cliffhanger after
cliffhanger. You know, it's a roller
726
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.360
coaster ride, but it's a well
worth episode to listen to him. You'll
727
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.840
get a better understanding for who Francis
is as a person and kind of like,
728
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:21.079
Oh shit, he is like God. After hearing all the stuff he's
729
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.119
gone through, I can see why
he is the way he is. Right,
730
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:29.360
right, but awesome episodes. I
don't listen to all of them all
731
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.920
the time, but hey, yeah, but last the last thing I heard
732
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.000
from your Joe Roukin was a compilation
of him saying the n word over and
733
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.400
over again. I think that was
it. Yeah, that was terrible.
734
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:45.599
I know, I never, I've
never heard him say that, but that,
735
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:49.000
I mean, obviously he has,
but not. See, that's the
736
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:53.199
thing about choosing topics, that choosing
episodes to listen to, you know.
737
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.559
I mean there's some episodes where I'm
like, that's like a topic that I
738
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.519
don't really want to know about.
On top of that, that person is
739
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:07.079
someone that is super controversial and maybe
I don't even like that person. So
740
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.480
if he's can't he can have them
on. I can still like him,
741
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:14.599
I can still like listening to him, but that episode I'm not going to
742
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:16.960
listen to. And I'm not saying
that he got baited into saying the things
743
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.440
that he said. He's got free
will, he's got his own mind.
744
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.440
He said what he said. Hey, that's too bad. You know,
745
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.840
in the end, just, I
mean will you? You have a choice,
746
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.960
just like he had a choice to
say what he says. We should
747
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:38.920
have a choice into listening to what
we want to listen to, you know.
748
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:45.320
And but again, we should also
have we should also be smart enough
749
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.000
to understand that, hey, he's
not an expert and maybe the people that
750
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:54.519
he's having on are are or were
considered experts at a certain time, and
751
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:59.800
maybe they're not. But you gotta
you gotta be a doll about that and
752
00:55:59.960 --> 00:56:02.719
realize that yourself and you can't just
be like, oh, he said he's
753
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.559
a doctor and I'm going to listen
to what he says. Fool, you
754
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.360
don't know that. Fulls background.
Would you go to get a root canal
755
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:15.239
from any doctor in the phone book? Hell No. Would you just drive
756
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:21.719
around town until you saw a freaking
what's the Colon Oscar? Be Doctors,
757
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:27.239
procologist, I don't know, proctologies. Would you just drive around be like,
758
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:29.159
Oh, oh, that's a proctologist, all right, I'm gonna go
759
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:31.559
get my Coldon Oscar be done right
there. No, Dude, you're going
760
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:36.119
to do some research. You know, same thing with your health or with
761
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.639
anything that it that's going to have
something to do with your life or your
762
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:44.639
wellbeing. Do a little bit of
research and don't just use Google. You're
763
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.159
not in fifth grade, you're not
doing a state project report, so go
764
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:54.119
to your library or use your universities
database, ser something. But we got
765
00:56:54.239 --> 00:57:00.440
to do better than just doing simple
google searches. Yeah, sometimes that's not
766
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:07.199
the best. Use Google. Most
the time that's not the best. Yeah,
767
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.039
it was dollar. Yeah, who
will not the best for anything.
768
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:15.360
So if you can find something else, cool, but also check, because
769
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:22.360
there's a lot of bullshit out there. Yeah, so that's all that and
770
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.519
I find thanks for listening, man
fell. Yeah, man, well,
771
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:28.800
that box there. Now, that's
that's a good topic, man, it's
772
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:31.119
it's it just, you know,
it's good to go back and look,
773
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:35.199
look back at how how things started, you know, and with everything,
774
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.320
man, like, I mean,
you know, he's he's a comedian.
775
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.360
You know, he's an artist,
just like a musician, you know,
776
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.599
is just like you know, an
author is and stuff like that. And
777
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:50.920
like, you know, things change
as people evolved and yeah, and move
778
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.239
in and you know again, you
know, once you once you decide to
779
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:58.559
sign a deal like this, then, you know, you got to understand
780
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:00.079
that. You know, your medium
isn't a hundred percent your own. Now,
781
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:05.519
like now you're sharing it. You're
kind of CO writing it with whoever's
782
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.880
pain, right. You know I
mean because they they have a lot of
783
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:13.199
when my plan peaked in and we
started talking about karate more, don't trip
784
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.679
out, guys. All right.
So here, here's a true test,
785
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:21.280
here's the true, true test here
for you, Frank. If you get
786
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.159
that spotify deal right and they went
you to do won't just say? Let's
787
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:30.320
just say, Hey, we'll give
you ten million dollars tomorrow. But you
788
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.320
got to you got to put on
your podcast that you think that karate's a
789
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.039
superior martial arts to Jiu Jitsu.
What are you gonna do? What are
790
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:45.639
you gonna say? The fact that
you have to ask me that question,
791
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:51.639
Fonzo, you know, I'm not
signing for less than twelve million. I'm
792
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.960
all right for the rest of my
life, and then I'm going to change
793
00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:05.760
the name of Jiu Jitsu to karate. Will really when people be like you
794
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.719
do karate, you be like,
yeah, I do karate. Think about
795
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:15.000
it, man, we can get
steal. You're playing chess, man,
796
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:20.280
I'm playing. I'm amazing, modifying. I'm playing shoots in light or it's
797
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:25.000
not even chest checkers exactly. Bro
You're trying to play checkers. I'm over
798
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:35.239
here. Please be jeweled. Part
three. All right, man. Well,
799
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:40.440
now we know. Now we go
Jiu jitsu forever. All right,
800
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.039
man, that's all I got.
Fonzo, you wanted anything else you want
801
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.480
to add, man, before you
wrap this up? Nah, man,
802
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.960
I just want to say it was
cool. I hope you guys out there
803
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.880
enjoy it. To let us know, let us know where your thoughts are.
804
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.760
Man, in my are we complete
off base here with what our thoughts
805
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.000
are, and let us know if
there's any topics that you like to maybe
806
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:00.599
have us talk bout on the show. I mean I love to do some
807
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.159
research on other stuff. Like I
said, we kind of just plan these
808
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.960
out whatever. You know, we
catches our interests. You know before we
809
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:10.880
talked about it. So you know, if you find some interesting out there,
810
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.079
share it, share with us and
yeah, maybe we'll do we'll see
811
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:20.320
you on the podcast later. Yeah, and whoever sending those messages and asking
812
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:24.559
us to do the history of baby
oil, stop, just stop. We're
813
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:28.480
not gonna do it all right,
that was that was Eddie. No,
814
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:32.480
it's me, fool. It could
be a multitude of people. It could
815
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.760
be a lot of people can do
it. But you know what we are
816
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:40.840
going to do next week. WHAT'S
THE NEXT UFC? Two hundred and seventy
817
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:45.719
two? Is it to seventy two
or two, seventy three, two seven
818
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:51.360
through to seven Deuce? That's whore
he moss withal Kobe coming and bro that's
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01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:53.320
going to be a really good card. Looking forward to talking about that.
820
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:57.800
Breaking it down. I'm going to
throw my cast out there and try to
821
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.840
really in the big dog, Eddie, see if we can get him on
822
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:04.719
the podcast, because in our decided
to talk about it. But that'll be
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01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:08.039
next weekend or next week's show,
so look out for that dropping pretty soon.
824
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:13.960
Jiujit titles until next week. Everybody, stay safe out there, keep
825
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:15.400
rolling and trading if you can,
and we hope to hear from me soon.
826
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:20.920
Peace, cool man, fucking gongs
whacking it in at the table over
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here there. This is the motivation
on